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Damia Seles (Starburns)

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Current Rank: Prospect/Kung
Request Rank: Enforcer

Promotion Summary: I suck at telling people how great I am. You should promote Damia because...she meets the requirements? IC she views the Hutt Cartel as a great way to make money, certainly a better way than running off to someone else to start making minimum wage when she's rolling in upwards of 5K a job. She's proven her loyalty most notably by climbing her way to the top 3 of the bounty of the board, and participating in the capture and handing over a pirate treasure ship. She's a fairly amicable person, who prefers to get things done the easiest way possible, whether that means tearing a guy's a head off or just chatting with them in a cantina. Also you guys really want to promote people I hear!

Links to Threads:

Entering and Breaking
-HUTT BOUNTY-COMPLETE-Damia's first job for the Cartel is a fairly easy bounty to bring a droid back

Don't Come Around Here No More
-HUTT BOUNTY-COMPLETE-Damia's second job involves capturing a rich Naboo Slave Liberator

Under Our Nose
-HUTT MISSION-COMPLETE-Damia teams up with another member of the Cartel to take out a bounty hunting guild unaffiliated with the Cartel that had cropped up on Nar Shaddaa

Don't Come Around Here No More
-HUTT BOUNTY-COMPLETE-Damia takes down Tyler Durden. Need I say more?

The Devil's Last Gift
-HUTT MISSION-COMPLETE-Damia teams up with the Enforcer Elohim Aeon to capture a ship full of treasure for the Cartel

The Devil's Last Gift
-HUTT MISSION-COMPLETE-Damia teams up with the Enforcer Elohim Aeon to capture a ship full of treasure for the Cartel

Double Trouble
-GAME SHOW-ABANDONED-Damia participates in an insane game show

Jamming with Lev
-SOCIAL-COMPLETE-Damia goes to a bar and meets some people

THe Lien Article
-MISSION-ABANDONED-Damia plays a part in robbing a bank, as a feint to give Lucifer Vapaelraizo control

Spice Lords of Sevarcos II
-MISSION-ONGOING-Damia attempts to convince one of the Spice Lords of Sevarcos II to ally themselves with Borga the Hutt to increase his spice operations by participating in a race as part of the Festival of the Five Winds

Difficult Decisions
-SKIRMISH/THING-ONGOING-Damia is part of a team sent to Rishi to investigate an attack on that world by another member of the Cartel

Guns of the Navvaro
-HUTT MISSION-ONGOING-Damia and two other Cartel members attempt to salvage the Cartel's gun running operation on Mimban after the native Coway and settlers stop shooting at each other and try "peace"

Climbing the Corporate Ladder
-VOUCH-COMPLETED-Damia gets Jack Tamblyn, a Cartel Captain to vouch for her in exchange for future work

I say, "Congratu-frickin-lations". Promote her.
 

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Anonymous said:
I just had a quick read of "Do you not wanted to be promoted?" as such, and my thoughts on that were as follows. This is only my opinion and few on it anyway, something I thought maybe might help give you some feedback if you feel like people aren't striving for promotions. As was the impression I got from that thread.

When it came to the requirements, I'm all for having done so many threads, missions etc. That's basic activity and progression checking. To me though, while it makes sense, I don't think that asking someone to explain their characters views the Cartel is something that should be involved in the promotion. I can understand it in some sense, but when I see that as a writer, I get a little uneasy because it's such an open ended question that sounds like it's vital and can easily screw your chances up. Whether that's been anyone else's thoughts or not I don't know. Just thought I would put my thoughts through cause it might help? I don't know. xD
This person is remaining anonymous after I asked him/her If I could show you his PM, though it didnt really matter to him/her that it be so.

Though that does not matter. What I want to focus on is a revisitation of the promotion guidelines. If one member thinks this way, than perhaps another does as well.
 

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Its not an invalid point, actually. The inclusion of that condition sort of narrows the field of how a member may feel about the Cartel, the Hutts, etc. And realistically, we should have chracters who aren't convinced that the Hutts are "all that", think that the Cartel is a joke, etc, but as long as they're contributing in a positive manner to the faction, and not interfering with Cartel business, progress and crime, it shouldn't matter at all.

Also, after a quick glance at the Guide to Promotion, it actually asks for two different "submissions". The dot points featured in the upper section, and the template at the bottom as well. Similar submission points in wording, but also quite different in what they're asking for.

Specifically the Prospect->Enforcer dot point "Share with us what your character thinks of the Cartel and how he's/she's proven his/her loyalty to the faction" could be altered to just "Share how your character has proven his/her loyalty to the faction" or get rid of it altogether, as proving unwavering loyalty in 4 threads aint exactly easy without droning hero-worship.
 

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I say we change it as you suggested to "Share how your character has proven his/her loyalty to the faction".
 

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From Prospect to Enforcer:
  • Provide all the threads his or her character did as a member of this faction [and provide short descriptions of said threads so that the staff has an idea of what's going on]
  • Provide/point out links to at least 4 Cartel jobs the PC did (at least two need to be missions).
  • Share with us what your character thinks of the Cartel and how he's/she's proven his/her loyalty to the faction
  • Also must have at least one Captain, or higher, ranked PC's vouch for him/her.

From Enforcer to Champios:
  • Provide all the threads his or her character did as an Enforcer of this faction [and provide short descriptions of said threads so that the staff has an idea of what's going on]
  • Provide/point out links to at least 8 Cartel jobs the PC had completed while an Enforcer. (at least four need to be missions).
  • Share with us how your character is going to provide for the Cartel and what they are going to do to earn specifically.
  • Also must have at least two Captain, or higher, ranked PC's vouch for him/her.

Vouching:
In order for you to rise through the ranks you must have a Champios or higher ranked member vouch for you. Whether you do something to earn their trust, or you set up a meeting and ask, this must be an IC detailed thread to be included in your application.

For those of you who vouch for a member, if the member fails to meet the standards for said rank there will be repercussions such as tarnished reputation, trust, etc...

Character Name:
Character Link:
Current Rank:
Requested Rank:
Promotion Summary: (Please provide a short description of why your character is worthy of a promotion to the next rank based on the outlines given above.)
Links to Threads: (These threads are evidence to support your character's promotion.)
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I say we do away with repercussions for those who vouch. It would make vouching easier, though not like it was hard before. What other alterations are we thinking?
 

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Here's my "proposed" revision.

From Prospect to Enforcer:
  • Provide all the threads his or her character did as a member of this faction [and provide short descriptions of said threads so that the staff has an idea of what's going on]
  • Provide/point out links to at least 3 Cartel jobs the PC did (at least one needs to be a mission).
  • Share with us how your character has proven his/her loyalty to the faction
  • Also must have at least one Captain, or higher, ranked PC's vouch for him/her.

From Enforcer to Champios:
  • Provide all the threads his or her character did as an Enforcer of this faction [and provide short descriptions of said threads so that the staff has an idea of what's going on]
  • Provide/point out links to at least 8 Cartel jobs the PC had completed while an Enforcer. (at least four need to be missions/bounties).
  • Share with us how your character is going to provide for the Cartel and what they are going to do to earn specifically.
  • Also must have at least two Captain, or higher, ranked PC's vouch for him/her.

Vouching:
In order for you to rise through the ranks you must have a Champios or higher ranked member vouch for you. Whether you do something to earn their trust, or you set up a meeting and ask, this must be an IC detailed thread to be included in your application:

Character Name:
Character Link:
Current Rank:
Requested Rank:
Promotion Summary: (Please provide a short description of why your character is worthy of a promotion to the next rank based on the outlines given above.)
Links to Threads: (These threads are evidence to support your character's promotion.)
 

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Up it to 4, it doesn't really both me. Essentially the lowest rank, i think, should be a "welcome to the hutt cartel. now go learn how shit works".
 

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Yeah, I think it shows the prestige of getting to Champios
 

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Up it to 4, it doesn't really both me. Essentially the lowest rank, i think, should be a "welcome to the hutt cartel. now go learn how shit works".
In that case nothing needs to be changed.

What do you think Kev, Is there anything wrong with the guidelines?
 

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In that case nothing needs to be changed.

What do you think Kev, Is there anything wrong with the guidelines?
Honestly, I didn't think anything was wrong with them, but I do like the revision a bit more.
 

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I agree and just note that I told him to apply just so he can get a standing on where he is. Hopefully this will also spark others to apply as well. The more applications, the more people we can potentially ptromote.
 

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Ok, seeing as none of his threads are done yet that's a bit of a yellow flag for me. However while I'd like to see threads done, they don't have to be in order for him to get promoted if they are close enough. Right? After all we all know how the forum world gets sometimes, people drop out and things happen. However that doesn't apply if he's midway in to it or has made like 1-2 posts in a thread.

What do you guys think about the threads themselves? Has he done enough in your opinion in them. Is he close?

I certainly saw him put in proper effort since he came back so I'd like to see where you guys stand on the matter before I put in my vote.
 

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Ok, seeing as none of his threads are done yet that's a bit of a yellow flag for me. However while I'd like to see threads done, they don't have to be in order for him to get promoted if they are close enough. Right? After all we all know how the forum world gets sometimes, people drop out and things happen. However that doesn't apply if he's midway in to it or has made like 1-2 posts in a thread.

What do you guys think about the threads themselves? Has he done enough in your opinion in them. Is he close?

I certainly saw him put in proper effort since he came back so I'd like to see where you guys stand on the matter before I put in my vote.
Honestly? He's only got four missions, which is the minimum requirement for promotion, and none of them are completed. If he had six ongoing, or maybe 5, with one completed, i'd be more likely consider it.

All this shows us at the moment is that he likes to participate. There's no evidence to show that he follows through.

He needs to complete more threads than a lone duel, in my mind.
At least one mission, and at least one of the Hutt Cartel oriented story arcs.
Until then, I don't think that his application warrants further assessment.
 

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Hmmm ok then. Have the man do a few more threads and then he'll be good.
 
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