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Apollyon

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Ruin is deflecting, recalling his lightsaber, “charging up”, and preparing for melee combat. What’s flashing is the bolt that was deflected in the first posting round. We had discussed that it would likely return to DeWitt in the midst of your volley on discord, which you agreed to I believe. So it’s not any of the four shots send Ruin’s way but the hit you confirmed in your posting round.
 

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On closer inspection it looks like you have the deflected bolt hit much sooner than I have in my post and threw off the logic for me for a moment. I know we discussed it above, but I've never agreed to edit and have not edited the timing of the deflected bolt hitting Sey's chest in relation to him squeezing off those five quick shots.

If you could edit that as well, @Apollyon, that's be grand.
 

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I am cool with you editing because the timing is severely flawed. Ruin deflects that shot then moves, DeWitt fires as Ruin is moving, meaning that the bolt travel time would hit in that volley. The blaster bolt isn’t going to magically slow down but if you feel it is absolutely necessary, I will edit it to fit that timing when I get off of work :)
 

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It's a bit strange, @Apollyon, that your character can get his second lightsaber from his back, throw it with the Force, then ignite your primary lightsaber and bring it up in a defensive stance faster than mine can reflex squeeze off five rounds from a pistol already aimed at your character.

Not to mention that you somehow managed to throw your lightsaber, despite your current post starting at the exact point your character was supposed to throw it (as the bolts are being fired when Ruin begins to step to his right and starts his throw) with no mention of having that second lightsaber in your hand (in fact he had it on his back per your description).

If there's flawed timing here.. it isn't mine.
 

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The lightsaber is coming off his belt which is on his waist as he moves. The actions in that post were deflect -> deactivate and move, saber is throw once the blade is deactivated. Your post suggests that DeWitt fires post movement because he is firing to the side of where he last saw the primary saber was active. That would be when Ruin’s second lightsaber was already headed towards DeWitt.
 

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After the shot had been deflected Ruin would deactivate his lightsaber, causing the beacon that revealed his presence to fade from existence and he would force his feet to move him towards his right, DeWitt's left in a circular fashion. As he did this, Ruin would send his second lightsaber, unactivated, in an arc off to his left, DeWitt's right.

DeWitt reacts to the bolded part, meaning that everything following would occur during or after him firing. Note that 'sending his second saber' isn't an instantaneous move and would require at the very least three seconds, just as Ruin's initial movement would occur during DeWitt firing those five bolts.

@Arclight @Phoenix I don't know when my deadline is following @Apollyon's edit, but as I doubt the edited version will be undisputed before my posting time ends due to him not informing me, I'd like to request what will hopefully be my last extension.
 

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So you are negating the throw completely then? Which means it’s still on his waist. Okay, I can make that edit as well :)
 

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Edits made to account for your post negation!
 

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No, you would be performing the action as you wrote in an earlier post. Right now you're not moving and your entire throw is suddenly telekinetic allowing you to be in a perfect position to counter. I don't like the vagueness of your post and I implore you to be more specific in your next one.
 

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Your character is interacting right when Ruin deactivates his saber and beings to move and accomplish his lightsaber throw (which is considered to be telekinetic either in control or trajectory.) However, you are wanting to interact ONLY when the saber deactivates, ignoring the opener of my next sentence in that same post

"After the shot had been deflected Ruin would deactivate his lightsaber, causing the beacon that revealed his presence to fade from existence and he would force his feet to move him towards his right, DeWitt's left in a circular fashion. As he did this, Ruin would send his second lightsaber, unactivated, in an arc off to his left, DeWitt's right.

That means in conjunction with the movement and lightsaber deactivation this occurs. You are breaking things up into several actions when there is only two in the post. Deflect -> deactivate, begin movement, saber throw. What you are doing is called a post negation, or an attempted one at the very least.

To address my edits, per your pushing I'll run with the negation. DeWitt succeeded in stopping Ruin from using Saber Throw. Ruin is forced to defend, he deflects the blaster bolts and then calls his second saber to his hand from his waist and activates it. After this, he begins to draw on the Dark Side to "charge up" and enters into a defensive stance to defend from DeWitt's next move.

However, your passive aggressive behavior is beginning to take this from a thread I am enjoying writing to one that is becoming annoying. Instead of communicating with me, you are talking negatively to other members of the site (who have recently brought it to my attention.) If you have a question ask it in a civil manner and I'll be more then happy to reply, don't talk shit about me outside the thread (because I will find out), and actually read the edits (because I feel it's obvious you haven't.)

Up until this point I have treated you with respect and refrained from talking negatively about this thread in any manner. Have I made jokes about Ruin hitting on DeWitt? Sure, but I don't appreciate you running my name through the mud because of your personal frustrations. Ask questions, be respectful, and create something worth reading.
 
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First off, don't play the victim here. I ask you to clarify a post and discuss its worth. I am not passive aggressive, nor am I bad-talking (I have barely been talking in chats at all) and if people brought that to your attention they are pulling your leg and you should report them to the admins for slanderous and toxic behavior. Next time bring that to me in private and you'll know the truth instead of making me look like a complete asshole on the forum for everyone to see based on falsehoods and jumped conclusions.

I will address the main part about our IC thread later tonight because I am livid that you chose to do this, but I will state that imho if your character can do four things at the same time in a fluid single action without prep I would not consider it a sentient being.
 

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moving and deactivating a lightsaber aren’t things that require prep. Walking doesn’t require preplanning at all. So the saber throw is easily accomplishable.

However, I apologize for jumping to conclusions. You are right and I allowed my emotions to get the better of me due to trusting the source. Regardless, the actions Ruin is taking are not like jumping, doing ten saber strikes, a push, and lightning in a post. Moving from point a to b isn’t something that requires concentration or thought, it’s a natural thing we all do. To top that off we see Jedi in canon deflecting fully automatic blaster rifle bolts, moving forward, and using force powers at the same time or in short succession of each other. My point here is, what is your issue here? The amount of simple actions taken or am I missing a portion of your post?
 

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IC said:
His contrasting blades were ignited and he stood ready

Am I correct that you already had one blade ignited? Can you then make this singular and specify how he held them? Parallel to each other and vertical? Crossed vertical with the tips up? @Apollyon
 

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Sure, I’m at work so it might be either on lunch or between jobs but I can do that for you
 

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Sorry for the delay, both jobs ended up having me extremely busy and afterwards I had to help my dad move some stuff to build a mud room in their garage. Anyways, edits are up!
 

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@Arclight @Phoenix
I worked an unexpected 12 today and work one tomorrow. I am going to need an extension, I can reply Wednesday evening. I apologize, I basically got voluntold to take the shift over at our sister store after mine was done.
 

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@Arclight @Phoenix
I worked an unexpected 12 today and work one tomorrow. I am going to need an extension, I can reply Wednesday evening. I apologize, I basically got voluntold to take the shift over at our sister store after mine was done.
When are you due to post and how many hours do you need?
 

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I am due at 12:43 central tomorrow. I work 9-9, I can post by 8 pm central Wednesday.
 

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@Phoenix @Arclight
I have a doctor's appointment and I am going to visit my sister in the hospital, I can reply tonight. I apologize for all this but it's been a hectic and long week already.
 
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