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Considering the [cartel] decided to no longer accept the agreement we made in discord, this report was unfortunately inevitable.
Darasuum asked me what floor the Imperial players were on and I told him that he could place us there where we could -finally- start the PvP. He made no mention that he believed we were already in PvP nor had he made it clear his attack on the building was an attack on the characters inside said building. No tags, no discord FYI. I believe he should have at least notified us the moment it was OOCly clear his post was too vague for us to consider it any sort of attack on the present PCs. He proceeded to use the positioning leeway I gave him to autohit.
I accepted that autohit initially on two conditions. The one below is the one relevant here. The other was @Rimrald's character being to exit the thread unscathed.
1) Based on the discord convo and message:
In the above excerpt we had discussed the fact that the total invasion force on the ground in this thread was four. Three PC characters and a single NPC. Nor'baal stated he did not plan to provide any kind of invasion force c.q. faction assets. I argued that storywise this didn't make much sense and we have several Imperial players who were discouraged to participate because a mere PVP -which was supposed to be optional in their minds- trumps writing a story that made sense to them, at least logically.
The above reason already caused several OOC fights spread out over all these invasion threads. All with the same disconnect based on uncollaborative views and perspectives. In an effort to move everyone passed this growing toxicity I wished to end this thread quickly with an outcome that had something for both sides; cartel wins the fight and bragging rights, but would not take a planet inside Core Imperial Territory without devoting faction assets to it.
I'm not a fan of having to post a thread like this, but at this point I feel forced to ask [Staff] to take a look at the thread, the players, their behavior (including my own) and the discord OOC channel. More concreet: I'd like staff to rule on the following:
1) Rule on whether #7 is an attack on player characters. Note that the post ends with "Anywhere else in the building they would still feel the shaking and rumbling of the approaching threat as it came closer with each moment." This is the part we deemed relevant to our characters.
2) Rule on whether it would be considered an autohit because @Eccles and @Rimrald (posts #10 and #12) did not address it as an attack on their characters.
3) Whether this Invasion thread and its premise should be enough to justify it changing hands to the faction that hired the invading thread participants.
I regret this has become necessary and I'd like to thank staff in advance for their time and effort to review the above.
@Sreeya @Nor'baal @Pantor @Rimrald @Die Shize @Javier esschoolbus
Post in contention: link
Considering the [cartel] decided to no longer accept the agreement we made in discord, this report was unfortunately inevitable.
Darasuum asked me what floor the Imperial players were on and I told him that he could place us there where we could -finally- start the PvP. He made no mention that he believed we were already in PvP nor had he made it clear his attack on the building was an attack on the characters inside said building. No tags, no discord FYI. I believe he should have at least notified us the moment it was OOCly clear his post was too vague for us to consider it any sort of attack on the present PCs. He proceeded to use the positioning leeway I gave him to autohit.
I accepted that autohit initially on two conditions. The one below is the one relevant here. The other was @Rimrald's character being to exit the thread unscathed.
1) Based on the discord convo and message:
In the above excerpt we had discussed the fact that the total invasion force on the ground in this thread was four. Three PC characters and a single NPC. Nor'baal stated he did not plan to provide any kind of invasion force c.q. faction assets. I argued that storywise this didn't make much sense and we have several Imperial players who were discouraged to participate because a mere PVP -which was supposed to be optional in their minds- trumps writing a story that made sense to them, at least logically.
The above reason already caused several OOC fights spread out over all these invasion threads. All with the same disconnect based on uncollaborative views and perspectives. In an effort to move everyone passed this growing toxicity I wished to end this thread quickly with an outcome that had something for both sides; cartel wins the fight and bragging rights, but would not take a planet inside Core Imperial Territory without devoting faction assets to it.
I'm not a fan of having to post a thread like this, but at this point I feel forced to ask [Staff] to take a look at the thread, the players, their behavior (including my own) and the discord OOC channel. More concreet: I'd like staff to rule on the following:
1) Rule on whether #7 is an attack on player characters. Note that the post ends with "Anywhere else in the building they would still feel the shaking and rumbling of the approaching threat as it came closer with each moment." This is the part we deemed relevant to our characters.
2) Rule on whether it would be considered an autohit because @Eccles and @Rimrald (posts #10 and #12) did not address it as an attack on their characters.
3) Whether this Invasion thread and its premise should be enough to justify it changing hands to the faction that hired the invading thread participants.
I regret this has become necessary and I'd like to thank staff in advance for their time and effort to review the above.
@Sreeya @Nor'baal @Pantor @Rimrald @Die Shize @Javier esschoolbus
