Canon/Site Lore questions for new TL general continuity [SPOILERS!!!]

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So, having been one of the folks voicing some concerns over the new TL, I had some general questions anyone or mods can answer. Mostly looking to stoke discussion and perceptions of how things went down in tRoS and where it leaves canon and how it could be handled in the new TL. I'm new and all, so take my opinions and all with a grain of salt.

First, and the largest potential plot hole I saw, Palps ain't dead... again again. He obviously (at least to me) had the power to Essence Transfer and was brought back to his prime with the intent of doing it again. How would that fit into future narratives, particularly with respect to the new TL.
-Personally, I can't see him being permadead. He survived before, surviving what happened seems a matter of course particularly in what was probably a nexus. He DID want Rey to kill him again after all. So, as far as the TL goes I guess I'm curious how that will be handled since papa Palps is still running around.

Second, the Sith seem to have been completely destroyed. Or maybe not? I mean, the implication of the film seemed to be trying to impart that the Sith had been completely eradicated. But at the same time, for the sake of logic I can't imagine every single Sith follower to have been at that gathering.
-Personally, I can't imagine every Sith being there (seems like poor planning), but for the film to have major lasting impact and "closure" I kinda feel like all of the Sith need to have perished there (even if I'm kinda bummed by it). So I guess I'm wondering what TL "dark side" faction will rise out of that.

Third, the Republic. It effectively fell before because of previous corruption coming back to the surface paralyzing it from doing anything. Is the First Order completely gone, or is it basically the Remnant now? Will the Republic even be reestablished at all in the face of seeing what it led to last time?
- Personally, I think the Galaxy won't be keen on another Republic like the ones of old after the last major one led to brutal tyranny (with some pining for the stability it brought) and the recent one basically causing every major politician and great mind getting vaped in one go. It would make sense for the Galaxy to kind of be in "I'm going my own way" mode after continuously having one faction or another borking everything up for everyone. But, that all relies on the Order being gone and not still organized to a level that can eventually spread (especially since they apparently have Star Destroyer mounted superlaser tech). I could see the Order coming back with a vengeance if they held onto that tech.

Fourth, the Jedi/Bloodlines. So... Rey is both a Palpatine AND a Skywalker in essence. There wasn't really much to imply she was going to restart the Order. I suppose that was all left open ended intentionally, but the bloodline matter is still there so how will that be handled in the new TL?
- Personally, well... I guess I'm wondering how the bloodline stuff will be handled haha. It would be a logical progression to restart the Order again with tweaks like Legends Luke did.

Not trying to dictate stuff here, interested in discussion and input from those shaping the TL since those were the major things I saw that would impact the TL/canon.
 
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As there are no admins around...

There is an embargo on posting about the film, with or without spoiler tags. Could you remove the text of this post please - ASAP, so others don't read it?
 

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Where are embargos and such posted for future reference? Thanks!
 

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Spoiler tags are all right. @Nor'baal I appreciate it, but in this case there was plenty of warning in the post that there are spoilers. @Aecus, we are updating it as a message up top now. Primarily people have been warned on discord.
 

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@Sreeya, gotcha! Didn't check the discord. Is it cool to post it with the tag? I can wait, but I has feels about IX haha.
 

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@Sreeya, gotcha! Didn't check the discord. Is it cool to post it with the tag? I can wait, but I has feels about IX haha.

Yeah go ahead and use an overall spoiler tag with:

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 [spoiler=TROS SPOILER HERE!] words words [/spoiler]
 

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Thanks Sreeya :mando:

My thoughts in the spoiler below:

Regarding the 'Palpatine not being dead' point, this won't be an issue in my opinion, we can just ignore him. We have never used canon characters on SWRP, so this time around shouldn't be any different, Palpatine is just off 'somewhere' doing 'something' and everyone thinks he is dead.

With your second point, the Sith have not been completely destroyed. Never have been - never will be. Star Wars Lore is full of times in which people think the Sith are finally gone, but they aren't. The forum staff can easily say 'Some of those Acolytes escaped and founded a new Order' or something similar.

Point Three: IMO the First Order isn't fully gone. If the Emperor can build an entire army in secret, the FO can secret a few ships away when things went south. The Republic will reform, but with a different structure that prevents tyranny (or tries to) and the development of this Government could be a major part of the next TL.

Bloodlines Point, we do not use legacy names here - so I assume we would just ignore it? I think so anyway. Jedi will be reformed, because we have a lot of players who want to RP a jedi.

TL:DR - The film left a lot of open ends for the forum to use for the next Timeline, only time will tell what we get!
 

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@Nor'baal

Thanks for the input, it helps hearing this coming from a site veteran. I suppose I'm new enough that I worry about "mah star wars" when I really shouldn't here. Your signature speaks to the quality of the TLs (and what I've read), so I guess I need to work on accepting major "headcanon" changes (I used to be good at that when I RP'd a while ago... age, man).

I do wonder though about the legacy names in this case since the era is heavily defined by those bloodlines. I can't really wrap my head around forgoing Skywalker and Palpatine if the new TL is in "close" proximity to this. Although some of the bloodline aspects makes me wonder if those are now "usable" assets in the upcoming TL.

Although, relating to the second and third points, it seems like there was a quasi-separate "Sith" military out there as well with the red armor. Didn't really see what happened there so I suppose that certainly leaves some options open. It isn't like the Resistance had a stable government either, so I guess you're right that leaves a lot of possibilities along with some legitimately thinking the Empire offered some stability like what was referenced in Mando.

Thanks again though. Time will tell indeed!
 
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