Arauk'kesh: End of a Reign

Apollyon

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So, per my last post I deal with lower strike by having my character move back and then block the strike coming in on his left before going straight into a thrust.

"Subsection F: In duels, if an opponent completely ignores an attack in his/her counter reply, that attack is an automatic hit. If clarification is needed for an attack, it's up to the players to contact their opponent and clarify an attack. Do not make assumptions and exploit vagueness. Writers are permitted and encouraged to inquire about details regarding a thread. This includes, but is not limited to, participants, location of the thread, explanations for sections of a post, etc. Waiting for an explanation, as long as documented and within reason, does not violate posting time limits."


@Ecclessey @Kuroshi

I have no issues answering questions if something wasn't clear but I did react to both the strikes used against me.

The character moves back to avoid the strike that was aimed towards his Lightsaber's blade, he then blocks to his left and thrusts inward in a fluid motion. Everything was addressed, and I explained this over skype to her. I do have the logs to prove this
 
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While I get the part about wanting proof, please PM the skype logs to admins and not post them here lol.

I did not see you address the attack at all, which is why I suggested what I did. In that line of thought it was not an unclear post, but rather a suggestion of how to handle a PvP situation. That Kuroshi would put all the blame on me after you say you did address it is regrettable, but then again perhaps my title as AFL impressed her beyond thinking independently.

If I broke any rules I do apologise and I will leave it up to Malon whether or not to retain me as AFL.
 

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Then you aren't responsible for her knowing the information, having it explained to her with me telling her if she had any more questions to ask me, and then choosing to ignore the explanation anyways. I apologize for making you appear poorly in that regard. It was a complete over reaction
 

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Having said all of this, your IC post still doesn't read to me as a counter to her second lightsaber. That's not vagueness that should be inquired about, that is simply a mistake made in your PvP post and therefore makes it imho a legitimate move.

While you say here in the OOC "The character moves back to avoid the strike that was aimed towards his Lightsaber's blade, he then blocks and thrusts in a fluid motion. Everything was addressed, and I explained this over skype to her. I do have the logs to prove this" - your post only ever mentions one lightsaber that is parried. Moving a left foot backwards would not constitute a successful evasion, especially considering the timing. There is, again in imho, a difference between inquiring about vagueness and writing your opponent's PvP posts for them.
 

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I didn't write her post for her, I acknowledged her post and had my character interact directly with it, moving back to avoid a low strike and bring his saber up and across his body to be leveled horizontally with her chest to block the strike on his left before thrusting in. If he was blocking the lower strike the horizontal blade wouldn't exist because he would keep his blade in a low guard and not move in order to ensure it didn't contact his legs.

If that was unclear, she should have approached me and asked me to clarify it for her and in my post. I came to her and asked her about the directions of her strikes before working on this post to ensure everything was correct.
 

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I'm sorry for the issues with my post, and I'll edit it to recognize the deflect and counter if needed. I haven't pvp'd on this site at all before, or any site, so I went with what Tim said regarding hits and the ruling on them.

Though, if the left saber was aimed at his saber rather than his lower half in general I'm not sure a backstep would be too effective in totally evading it.
 

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No I meant that I didn't want her to write your post for you. If a PvP action is inadequate the opponent shouldn't be obliged to help with the edits to improve it. That is why I suggested she should just post.

I get that it's dangerously close to breaking that rule, and perhaps I did cross it, but I didn't see any confusion or vagueness. I wasn't aware that it had been discussed between the two of you beforehand whether or not you blocked both strikes and I see where confusion may arise when IC post =/= OOC intention.
 

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Okay, I misunderstood you there. I apologize.

But yeah, I have no issues explaining what's going on and making edits to make it clearer for @Kuroshi and anyone else reading, all they have to do is ask me! As I said in chat, I think it's fair and reasonable that her strike knock his stab off course.
 

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It seems you guys managed to work this out while I was asleep. Good, I'm glad.

As this is a factional issue, the PvP admins won't deal with this directly (though I might ask them for advice wherever I am lacking). From now on, if there is a dispute or issue with this PvP, please report it through the normal channels and I will handle it from there. Thanks guys and good luck to you both.

Edit: For the record, this thread is now on my Watch List, so I should see any updates. Still, report it if a consensus cannot be reached, and I will step in where needed to make rulings.
 

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Confusion issues on James's post were resolved, and I'm editing my post rn. We decided to just script the rest of the fight just to ease the heavy anxiety I was feeling about pvp and what's gone on so far with it (May have had a mini anxiety attack earlier today??). James and I pretty much discussed both character actions from the counter stab to the very end of the fight with Reign ending up being stabbed and killed by Ruin.

Regardless, thank you Malon for giving the thread attention anyway.
 
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