City Life! OOC

[Rós]

All OOC for "City Life!" will go here.
Just for if anyone wants to know how they can fit in and etc. :)

[Saint]

Thanks for throwing this up.

I appreciate it.

Nice sig by the way. :D

So Fallen, if you want our characters to have something set-up before or during this roleplay, it'd be good if you let me know before you decide to make my character late or tardy to a meeting that neither he nor I know about. ;)

I'm willing to work and roleplay with you, but please don't mod my character into an agreement or arrangement that you and I haven't agreed upon, or even discussed, as is the case now.

If that's all a part of her mental state, then I can go with that, but as for your character having a lock on his comm and such...

Anyway, just wanted to throw that out there. :)

We can work it, but communication is key.

So don't think I'm ignoring you OOC'ly, I'm ignoring your character IC'ly as there has been no prior agreement, meeting, or discussion between them. :D

[Rós]

Thank you, friend. Ima big fan of Dead Space. :P
Im supposing Fallen will be the third crew member?
Or?...

[Saint]

I don't think he's looking for a crew for his character to join.

At least, that's my take.

Maybe I'm wrong.

-shrugs-

Plus, Marcus would have to like his character. ;)

Doesn't seem much hope for that right now. :p

[Rós]

Haha, lucky me. :D
Wonder what Fallen is trying to do then?...

[Fallen]

I plan on Zyka not starting out as a crew member, but she'll be forced into the role. That's how it sometimes works. She's got people (and as we're going on improv, I leave it open for someone to explain who) who want to find her. She's been on the run for years. Also, I will be editting her history, slightly. Boatswain suggested I do the new way I had considered instead of the present one, so I will be changing it.

Also, loving this rpg.

[Fallen]

Uhh, guys. we ever gonna continue?

[Saint]

It's the Holidays...

Don't expect much from me right now.

Sorry

:(

I'll try to catch back up with my roleplays come Saturday.

[Fallen]

It's okay, I just don't want the story to die out, it's going good so far.

[Saint]

It's Saturday, and as promised, I've posted.

In all my roleplays, actually. :D

[Saint]

Hmmm... I was under the impression that you could not roleplay with gear that you didn't have listed in your bio.

[Commodore]

Hmmm... I was under the impression that you could not roleplay with gear that you didn't have listed in your bio.

Do I have something not listed?

[Saint]

The EMP and stealth generator both.

Unless I'm looking at the wrong profile...

:(

[Commodore]

The EMP and stealth generator both.

Unless I'm looking at the wrong profile...

:(

You probably are. My profile for him is more of a literary profile. But I based my weapons off the independent faction(Zialan Sodality) list of equipment he would have. The stealth generator is explicitly mentioned for his class, the EMP was something that would make sense for him to have considering the rest of his status.

[Fallen]

Yeah, makes sense:

Stealth = Droid/Machine poppers. He could also possibly have a poisoned knife or stun grenaides.

[Lerro]

Hey Zeal, I've been invited by Fallen to join the City Life thread if thats cool with you.

[Rós]

That would be fine. Mind you, we are in the middle of a fight.

[Rós]

Noncommunist, how is your Stealth still working after an EMP grenade goes off? Wouldn't it affect you too?

[Commodore]

Noncommunist, how is your Stealth still working after an EMP grenade goes off? Wouldn't it affect you too?

He threw it from a the other side of another ship so it should be far enough away that it shouldn't be a problem.

[Fallen]

I suggest you wait until after the fight is over, Lerro. This looks like it might get interesting...

[Commodore]

Not a major point but my character is using a slugthrower rather than a blaster.

"Twin-barreled Wrist-mounted automatic bolter firing .60 Caliber explosive bolts from a 20-round magazine, or a linkless ammo feed from a micro-ammo pack worn on the back that holds 300 rounds. Fires at 600 rounds per minute. Can be loaded with specialty ammo. Equipped with laser sighting system in the event that weapon link with armor HUD fails."

[Fallen]

Still, it's gonna be noticeable if you've been -trained- (as she once was a Jedi in training) to look for things such as that.

[Jiang]

Still, it's gonna be noticeable if you've been -trained- (as she once was a Jedi in training) to look for things such as that.

You're right. You could see the muzzle flash of his weapon as he's firing, you could hear it, and you could track the tracer rounds back to their source. It just makes him a bit harder to hit.

[Lerro]

Oh good lord...I didn't see your post here guys. I've already posted, but not to worry, Salem is in no way interfering with the fight. My post worked out rather nicely though, now that I think about it. He is watching the battle trying to think of whether he should get involved or not...is this ok?? Again, sorry for not catching these posts sooner!

[Rós]

Lerro, you can always edit. I do it all the time. :)

I'll be posting soon.
BTW, Hakim, THANKS.

Because one Xenophobic with Power Armor isn't bad enough...

[Saint]

Not a major point but my character is using a slugthrower rather than a blaster.

"Twin-barreled Wrist-mounted automatic bolter firing .60 Caliber explosive bolts from a 20-round magazine, or a linkless ammo feed from a micro-ammo pack worn on the back that holds 300 rounds. Fires at 600 rounds per minute. Can be loaded with specialty ammo. Equipped with laser sighting system in the event that weapon link with armor HUD fails."

Just an observation, but the recoil from such a weapon would be tremendous to say the least. ;)

[Commodore]

Lerro, you can always edit. I do it all the time. :)

I'll be posting soon.
BTW, Hakim, THANKS.

Because one Xenophobic with Power Armor isn't bad enough...

At least he's visible! :CHappy:

Just an observation, but the recoil from such a weapon would be tremendous to say the least. ;)

Probably, the power armor should be of some help.

[Jiang]

Just an observation, but the recoil from such a weapon would be tremendous to say the least. ;)

For a normal human, yes. Bear in mind, the Warriors of the Zialan Sodality are specially trained to utilize high-recoil weaponry, and the power armor helps to dampen the recoil considerably. That said, it is not pinpoint accurate; your best optimum range for automatic fire would be roughly 15 meters, and single-shot would be 40 meters. In either case you could only hope for dinner-plate accuracy at best.


BTW, Hakim, THANKS.

Because one Xenophobic with Power Armor isn't bad enough...

You are very welcome! ^_^ Next time I'll really brighten the party by bringing Terminator armor and a gatling-gun! xD

[Saint]

Let me know when either of you have fired a .50 Cal. ;)

[Jiang]

Let me know when either of you have fired a .50 Cal. ;)

lol, the casings aren't THAT big, Saint. The .60 Caliber wrist bolter fires small pistol-sized cartridges. Think more along the lines of a Desert Eagle, turned fully automatic and mounted to a wrist.

[Rós]

Nice retreat Saint. :P
I figured retreat would be best at a time like this. >>
You have gotten me this time, Zialan, but I'll be back....:CIsee:

[Jiang]

Aw, we'll let you live, Zeal!

For a few seconds, at least. Filthy Xeno. >:3

[The Dragon Reborn]

Aw, we'll let you live, Zeal!

For a few seconds, at least. Filthy Xeno. >:3

Wait... wait... wait... You didn't invite Vashni into this? I'm hurt Hakim. Really, really hurt. :CCry2: :CCry1:

[Saint]

lol, the casings aren't THAT big, Saint. The .60 Caliber wrist bolter fires small pistol-sized cartridges. Think more along the lines of a Desert Eagle, turned fully automatic and mounted to a wrist.

I was thinking more like a .50 Cal sniper rifle or machine gun.

Gotcha. :D

Nice retreat Saint. :P
I figured retreat would be best at a time like this. >>

Sorry, just sticking to my character.

[Jiang]

Wait... wait... wait... You didn't invite Vashni into this? I'm hurt Hakim. Really, really hurt. :CCry2: :CCry1:

Jump in. We need a third man to make sure that wretched Xeno of Zeal's doesn't escape. But remember, we want him alive!

[The Dragon Reborn]

Jump in. We need a third man to make sure that wretched Xeno doesn't escape.

Lol. Do I get to use my sword that puts your lightsaber to shame? If so, I'll be in with his upgrade :CHappy:

[Rós]

You damn Space Marines have Hijacked my thread!!! :CShock:

I'll be posting my retreat soon. And I see that black Hakim. :CStern:

[Lerro]

Nice retreat Saint. :P
I figured retreat would be best at a time like this. >>
You have gotten me this time, Zialan, but I'll be back....:CIsee:

Salem is watching the battle and can step in at any time. Your character will be fine lol

[Jiang]

Lol. Do I get to use my sword that puts your lightsaber to shame? If so, I'll be in with his upgrade :CHappy:

I said 'alive'. Not filleted like a fish. You'll get to use your blade, though, I promise. :CStern:

[The Dragon Reborn]

You damn Space Marines have Hijacked my thread!!! :CShock:

I'll be posting my retreat soon. And I see that black Hakim. :CStern:

Vashni technically is just a small starship with a single pilot with a chaingun, missile launcher and energy sword

Salem is watching the battle and can step in at any time. Your character will be fine lol

No, that just means you're both gonna die :CHappy:

I said 'alive'. Not filleted like a fish. You'll get to use your blade, though, I promise. :CStern:

Awww, but I like fish. They're so slimy and don't scream when you gut them.

[Jiang]

No, that just means you're both gonna die :CHappy:

Niet; Salem is human. We do not hurt fellow humans without reason. We should recruit him! :p

[The Dragon Reborn]

Niet; Salem is human. We do not hurt fellow humans without reason. We should recruit him! :p

Tell that to Vashni as he rips Salem's head off and feeds it to his pet dog before he kills the dog for not being human :CHappy:

[Jiang]

Tell that to Vashni as he rips Salem's head off and feeds it to his pet dog before he kills the dog for not being human :CHappy:

:CAbove:





:CIsee:




:CStern:

Well, at least the dog got what was coming to it. Filthy Xeno.

[The Dragon Reborn]

:CAbove:





:CIsee:




:CStern:

Well, at least the dog got what was coming to it. Filthy Xeno.

Exactly.

But Vashni won't kill Salem unless Salem retaliates against getting burnt to a crisp by an 'accidental' burst of lightning. Hmm....

:CAbove:

I think this is going to be a bit of a problem.

[Jiang]

Gosh, you're such a ****ing genius, Dragon. I mean, I would have NEVER realized that there could be a tad bit of a problem here! XD

[The Dragon Reborn]

Gosh, you're such a ****ing genius, Dragon. I mean, I would have NEVER realized that there could be a tad bit of a problem here! XD

Don't take that condescending tone with me or I'll sic Feron on Ayda for a nice long talk with her brother! Which reminds me... you have to post in 'Forging the Obsidian Spear'. It has been what? Two, three months? :CStern:

[Lerro]

No, that just means you're both gonna die :CHappy:


psh naw we'll be fine. Salem kicks buttox!

[Rós]

Lerro, I escaped. You might want to as well.
Don't be recruited by these steroid using soldiers. :P

[The Dragon Reborn]

psh naw we'll be fine. Salem kicks buttox!

Can he beat a guy with three layers of armor, one layer that is used to build starships? What about a chaingun? Or a chainsword? Or an energy sword? What about a can of instant death known as a flamethrower at point blank? :CHappy:

[Rós]

Can he beat a guy with three layers of armor, one layer that is used to build starships? What about a chaingun? Or a chainsword? Or an energy sword? What about a can of instant death known as a flamethrower at point blank? :CHappy:

...
Nope, can't find any god-modding at all... :CHappy:
I kid, I kid.

[The Dragon Reborn]

...
Nope, can't find any god-modding at all... :CHappy:
I kid, I kid.

Sure you do. That's what they all say. Except Niner. He knows when he loses. Especially when one gets stabbed in the chest, thrown down a fifteen story shaft, stabbed in the leg, tossed like a rag doll into a bunch of support pillars, stepped on, and end up with just about every bone in the body broken. It is quite a way to get demoralized, isn't it? And that was only Vashni's training exercises! :CHappy:

[Lerro]

you have your weapons, but Salem has his charm, Dragon. You might actually end up NOT wanting to kill him :CHappy:

[The Dragon Reborn]

you have your weapons, but Salem has his charm, Dragon. You might actually end up NOT wanting to kill him :CHappy:

Think of it this way: Vashni won't really be interested in talking. He is a bloodthirsty kind of guy with a Red Forman attitude.

[Commodore]

you have your weapons, but Salem has his charm, Dragon. You might actually end up NOT wanting to kill him :CHappy:

Why shouldn't we kill him?

[Jiang]

Why shouldn't we kill him?

He's human. Unless he shoots us, we cannot shoot him on a whim.

Now, if we caught him collaborating with a Xeno, that'd be a different story.

[Lerro]

He's human. Unless he shoots us, we cannot shoot him on a whim.

Now, if we caught him collaborating with a Xeno, that'd be a different story.

What is a Xeno? Plus you fired on the Saint guy, and he is human isn't he?

[Commodore]

What is a Xeno? Plus you fired on the Saint guy, and he is human isn't he?

But he was a degenerate human who collaborated with xenos.

[Jiang]

Xeno = Any sentient race that isn't human.

[Saint]

But he was a degenerate human who collaborated with xenos.

Which his character knows because he saw them walking down the same dock. One circling a ship while the other just looked at it.

Collaborators Indeed!!

:D

[Commodore]

Which his character knows because he saw them walking down the same dock. One circling a ship while the other just looked at it.

Collaborators Indeed!!

:D

Dur, he wasn't fighting the xeno. How silly can you be?

[Saint]

That thought-process leads you to attack the entirety of Coruscant then, the planet that you're currently on. :p

[The Dragon Reborn]

Dur, he wasn't fighting the xeno. How silly can you be?

Of course! If there is no blood on the human's hand while a xeno is in the area then he is a target for the Sodality. And we won't rest until they are all dead. Which shouldn't take too long at this rate :p

[Lerro]

Dragon I must say, I'm very impressed with your character. I just now read your post in the thread, and dude that Vashni guy is freaking bad. Made Salem run like a scared girl. However...every shell can crack. I'm gunna find a way to get past that little...god-like armor of yours. So be ready mi amigo :CHappy:

[The Dragon Reborn]

Dragon I must say, I'm very impressed with your character. I just now read your post in the thread, and dude that Vashni guy is freaking bad. Made Salem run like a scared girl. However...every shell can crack. I'm gunna find a way to get past that little...god-like armor of yours. So be ready mi amigo :CHappy:

Vashni is the original tank. At first I was going to turn him into a Tuang, but Hakim persuaded me to make him an independent Power Armor warrior guy. After that he was inactive for a while until Hakim and Storm made their faction. Now he is back in business with some new toys to tinker around with :CHappy:

And good luck with getting into his shell. I doubt a few high powered explosives could accomplish that. :p

[Lerro]

Vashni is the original tank. At first I was going to turn him into a Tuang, but Hakim persuaded me to make him an independent Power Armor warrior guy. After that he was inactive for a while until Hakim and Storm made their faction. Now he is back in business with some new toys to tinker around with :CHappy:

And good luck with getting into his shell. I doubt a few high powered explosives could accomplish that. :p

You're absolutely right. No amount of explosives could get the job done...but then again, i didn't have explosives in mind. :) I'll find a way...don't you worry :D

[The Dragon Reborn]

You're absolutely right. No amount of explosives could get the job done...but then again, i didn't have explosives in mind. :) I'll find a way...don't you worry :D

Sadly for us both, Vashni is going back into the closet where he belongs. Or at least until Hakim needs me to kill someone again :CHappy:

[Jiang]

*decides to test out the whole 'sic Vashni on my enemies' thing*
Yo Dragon. I want you to kill the Supreme Chancellor. Do it and I'll make you a Captain.

[Lerro]

Sadly for us both, Vashni is going back into the closet where he belongs. Or at least until Hakim needs me to kill someone again

Lol, its not like you have to be out of the closet for me to make up a plan to rp my way through that armor. :CShock:prepare:CDumb:to lose:CCry2:the armor!!:CCry1:

[The Dragon Reborn]

Yo Dragon. I want you to kill the Supreme Chancellor. Do it and I'll make you a Captain.

Haha, we both know that Vashni is stronger than a captain right now. Besides, the Chancellor is busy. And I doubt Kupo will appreciate a starship destroying the Senate building right now.

[Jiang]

Haha, we both know that Vashni is stronger than a captain right now. Besides, the Chancellor is busy. And I doubt Kupo will appreciate a starship destroying the Senate building right now.

Do I look like I care what Kupo will think? :CStern:

[The Dragon Reborn]

Do I look like I care what Kupo will think? :CStern:

Very well. I'll kill him when I get back from vacation. Did I tell you that I am only fifty miles away from where you live? Ima gonna look you up and find you!

[Jiang]

Very well. I'll kill him when I get back from vacation. Did I tell you that I am only fifty miles away from where you live? Ima gonna look you up and find you!

I have a long driveway and a good scope on my 30-06. Bring it.

[The Dragon Reborn]

I have a long driveway and a good scope on my 30-06. Bring it.

Oh I will bring it. I'll bring your mom into it too!

[Jiang]

Oh I will bring it. I'll bring your mom into it too!

I hate you with every fiber of my being. :CStern:





































And yet, I love you so much! THIS IS SO CONFUSING IT HURTS! :CCry1:

[The Dragon Reborn]

I hate you with every fiber of my being. :CStern:





































And yet, I love you so much! THIS IS SO CONFUSING IT HURTS! :CCry1:

Don't worry, soon you will come to accept it! It's a lot like the Hakim disease, except the Dragon virus gives you DID and then you start hearing voices in your head. Shhh... it's almost over! You'll be just like me in no time!

[Fallen]

did anyone even notice the piece of hull that went flying? I do believe ya'll missed that.

[Words]

Is it too late for me to jump in with Isycc?

[Saint]

Is it too late for me to jump in with Isycc?

Nope, it's Open.

:D

[The Dragon Reborn]

Which brings me to another question at hand: how are we going to continue this?

[Lerro]

Which brings me to another question at hand: how are we going to continue this?

Well by the looks of things you guys have some work to do on your character profiles before we continue anywhere. Dragon, I was just getting close to an answer on how to get around your character's heavy armor, but it looks like someone has already came up with an answer for me! Check out our thread in the story section if you don't get my meaning

[The Dragon Reborn]

Actually, Vashni's armor has quite a few weaknesses in the back, neck, shoulders, and below the chestplate. Read the lines. I didn't design the armor, only the weaknesses XD

[Brandon Rhea]

Actually, Vashni's armor has quite a few weaknesses in the back, neck, shoulders, and below the chestplate. Read the lines. I didn't design the armor, only the weaknesses XD

"The only downside is that while I am protected almost completely from the heat and most conventional attacks (as well as any lightsaber assault to the chest), cold is multiplied."

Roughly translated to:

"I made a Greek God for a character. If you aim perfectly and shoot him in the heel, he dies. It's fair now, right?"

[The Dragon Reborn]

"The only downside is that while I am protected almost completely from the heat and most conventional attacks (as well as any lightsaber assault to the chest), cold is multiplied."

Roughly translated to:

"I made a Greek God for a character. If you aim perfectly and shoot him in the heel, he dies. It's fair now, right?"

Not at all. I believe I wrote about the back of his armor and how weak that was as well. How about the fact that his armor prevents him from turning around? What about the weakness in his back? The power couplings that a vibrosword could cut through? A knife could sink between the plates in his helm. A grenade from behind is an instant kill if it is the right kind.

Let me clarify his weaknesses: he isn't impervious to anything. Sure he has resistance to heat, but that's like friction and perhaps a few seconds of a flamethrower. He has weaknesses a plenty, including the life support systems in his armor. If someone reads that they will know that an armor piercing round, grenade, lightsaber, or even a vibrosword to the back with pretty much screw him over. The inner shell is just meant for shock absorption and appearances more than anything.

So, what is overpowered about a tank that can only move forward with all but no protection on his back and a sword he can pretty much only stab with? Pit him against someone with semi-decent weapons and a wide open area and he loses. His only advantage is up front. Even then I wrote about the boosters in his ankles. One shot and boom. There goes his mobility. So hmm... overpowered my ass. I made sure he had weaknesses to balance out his strengths.

[Lerro]

Can he beat a guy with three layers of armor, one layer that is used to build starships? What about a chaingun? Or a chainsword? Or an energy sword? What about a can of instant death known as a flamethrower at point blank? :CHappy:

This right here doesn't sound like he has any weaknesses dude lol

[The Dragon Reborn]

This right here doesn't sound like he has any weaknesses dude lol

Read above. That post is called an exaggeration.

[SIN]

Not at all. I believe I wrote about the back of his armor and how weak that was as well. How about the fact that his armor prevents him from turning around? What about the weakness in his back? The power couplings that a vibrosword could cut through? A knife could sink between the plates in his helm. A grenade from behind is an instant kill if it is the right kind.

As far as I can tell, none of this is mentioned in your profile.

Regardless...Just because the Death Star has a two meter wide exhaust port that can be used to blow the ****ing thing up doesn't mean you get to use the Death Star. It's completely unfair for you to have a character that is capable of jumping off buildings, resist light-saber attacks and has the armor of, and I quote, a FREAKING STARSHIP, while others are stuck with Jedi Padawans and smugglers.

Don't get me wrong, you're free to have a power armor (or whatever) if you want, but tone it down.

No character should be able to withstand a lightsaber blow to the chest.
No character should be immune to thermal detonators.
No character should be invisible and be able to carry heavy artillery at the same time.

It's just not fun for others, OK? Why should you be allowed to hijack a thread and then expect everyone else to try and figure out your character's weaknesses?

[Brandon Rhea]

It's just not fun for others, OK? Why should you be allowed to hijack a thread and then expect everyone else to try and figure out your character's weaknesses?

I want to emphasize this, as it's the most important point. RPing against something like this simply isn't fun for those involved. It creates too much of an uneven playing field. If you were just a regular type of character and I came in with something like this, you wouldn't have much fun as I was jumping off of buildings and resisting lightsaber blows to the chest while a simple blaster shot to the head could kill you dead immediately.

Like Sin said, just because you give something super powerful a weakness (like a two meter exhaust port on the Death Star) doesn't mean it's suddenly OK.

Feel free to continue arguing your point to your heart's desire, but our opinion won't change. You need to rework the problem characters if you want to use them.

[The Dragon Reborn]

As far as I can tell, none of this is mentioned in your profile.

Regardless...Just because the Death Star has a two meter wide exhaust port that can be used to blow the ****ing thing up doesn't mean you get to use the Death Star. It's completely unfair for you to have a character that is capable of jumping off buildings, resist light-saber attacks and has the armor of, and I quote, a FREAKING STARSHIP, while others are stuck with Jedi Padawans and smugglers.

Don't get me wrong, you're free to have a power armor (or whatever) if you want, but tone it down.

No character should be able to withstand a lightsaber blow to the chest.
No character should be immune to thermal detonators.
No character should be invisible and be able to carry heavy artillery at the same time.

It's just not fun for others, OK? Why should you be allowed to hijack a thread and then expect everyone else to try and figure out your character's weaknesses?

Finish the entire profile. After the aforementioned line "jump off of buildings" I wrote "well... not exactly, but you get the picture". An exaggeration. Perhaps I didn't phrase that well, but I read it as a metaphor.

Read up on ultrachrome. It's the metal used in starships and I used an allusion to that. I referenced star ship so that people could get an idea about what the armor looks like. I also wrote the thickness of the armor. Less than an inch? Was it 1/2 an inch? Half an inch of plating is less thick than my thumb. It isn't lightsaber resistant. Not completely. If someone stabs him and holds it there for a few seconds it will destroy the entire plate permanently.

He isn't immune to thermal detonators. Concussion grenades? Maybe. I don't believe I wrote that, though if I did I will change it.

Also, Vashni doesn't have a way to become invisible OR carry heavy artillery. His only gun is a chaingun while he has an energy sword and a dagger. To put that in layman's terms he is a Jedi Padawan with a gun and a lightsaber. Not even a good lightsaber. One that eats up his power cells and malfunctions all of the time.

The second part might be thrown at Hakim and Cailst, but in our defense, it was an open thread. Maybe their entrance wasn't exactly realistic and they could have done a better job of writing out weaknesses, but do you always write out a character's weaknesses IC? Usually you allow people to read the profile to find that since the weaknesses are rather obvious. I suppose it should be mandatory if one is wearing power armor.

As to the death star argument, who said anything about super weapons? The armors have weaknesses that are self explanatory and also written blatantly in the Sodality thread. The idea is like the templars in a way. The Sodality is armored and carries state of the art weapons like a templar. They are crusading for their 'religion' (kinda) and are much like a slow, armored version of the Dark Jedi. Except weaker in terms of the Force and 'lightsaber' combat.

EDIT:

I want to emphasize this, as it's the most important point. RPing against something like this simply isn't fun for those involved. It creates too much of an uneven playing field. If you were just a regular type of character and I came in with something like this, you wouldn't have much fun as I was jumping off of buildings and resisting lightsaber blows to the chest while a simple blaster shot to the head could kill you dead immediately.

Like Sin said, just because you give something super powerful a weakness (like a two meter exhaust port on the Death Star) doesn't mean it's suddenly OK.

Feel free to continue arguing your point to your heart's desire, but our opinion won't change. You need to rework the problem characters if you want to use them.

Then why are Dark Jedi and Jedi allowed in threads? A smuggler against a Dark Jedi is a weighted fight. There is no way the smuggler can get out alive unless he is decked out in state of the art gear with a couple others behind him. When you put a Jedi or Dark Jedi into a thread with 'regular' characters, the end result is the exact same as the one you just proposed: it ends up being quite boring.

What are the weaknesses of the Jedi and Dark Jedi? They have Force Powers, can deflect bullets and plasma, jump across mountains, and lift starships. What makes it possible for the common smuggler to kill one? I don't see how it would be possible unless the smuggler god modded.

This might be seen as a double edged knife, but still, it is unfair either way. Power Armor at least has palpable weaknesses for every strength. What counters a Jedi's lightsaber? What counters the Force? Or impossible reflexes?

[Brandon Rhea]

As to the death star argument, who said anything about super weapons?

It's an analogy.

But like I said, our opinion won't change.

[The Dragon Reborn]

It's an analogy.

But like I said, our opinion won't change.

Please read my edit. Why should others be allowed when they are even stronger and more god like?

[SIN]

Finish the entire profile. After the aforementioned line "jump off of buildings" I wrote "well... not exactly, but you get the picture". An exaggeration. Perhaps I didn't phrase that well, but I read it as a metaphor.

Read up on ultrachrome. It's the metal used in starships and I used an allusion to that. I referenced star ship so that people could get an idea about what the armor looks like. I also wrote the thickness of the armor. Less than an inch? Was it 1/2 an inch? Half an inch of plating is less thick than my thumb. It isn't lightsaber resistant. Not completely. If someone stabs him and holds it there for a few seconds it will destroy the entire plate permanently.

He isn't immune to thermal detonators. Concussion grenades? Maybe. I don't believe I wrote that, though if I did I will change it.

Also, Vashni doesn't have a way to become invisible OR carry heavy artillery. His only gun is a chaingun while he has an energy sword and a dagger. To put that in layman's terms he is a Jedi Padawan with a gun and a lightsaber. Not even a good lightsaber. One that eats up his power cells and malfunctions all of the time.

The second part might be thrown at Hakim and Cailst, but in our defense, it was an open thread. Maybe their entrance wasn't exactly realistic and they could have done a better job of writing out weaknesses, but do you always write out a character's weaknesses IC? Usually you allow people to read the profile to find that since the weaknesses are rather obvious. I suppose it should be mandatory if one is wearing power armor.

As to the death star argument, who said anything about super weapons? The armors have weaknesses that are self explanatory and also written blatantly in the Sodality thread. The idea is like the templars in a way. The Sodality is armored and carries state of the art weapons like a templar. They are crusading for their 'religion' (kinda) and are much like a slow, armored version of the Dark Jedi. Except weaker in terms of the Force and 'lightsaber' combat.

EDIT:



Then why are Dark Jedi and Jedi allowed in threads? A smuggler against a Dark Jedi is a weighted fight. There is no way the smuggler can get out alive unless he is decked out in state of the art gear with a couple others behind him. When you put a Jedi or Dark Jedi into a thread with 'regular' characters, the end result is the exact same as the one you just proposed: it ends up being quite boring.

What are the weaknesses of the Jedi and Dark Jedi? They have Force Powers, can deflect bullets and plasma, jump across mountains, and lift starships. What makes it possible for the common smuggler to kill one? I don't see how it would be possible unless the smuggler god modded.

This might be seen as a double edged knife, but still, it is unfair either way. Power Armor at least has palpable weaknesses for every strength. What counters a Jedi's lightsaber? What counters the Force? Or impossible reflexes?

My post was directed at Hakim and the others as well.

I really don't think I'm being reasonable by asking you to tone down your character.

PM once you've made the changes, and I'll take a look at your profile.

(BTW you did write in your profile that your character could resist lightsaber blow to the chest, and you DID mention in the City thread that your armor would make "any starship captain jealous." So please don't act as if I was taking things out of context, because I'm not)

EDIT: You can shoot a dark jedi with a slugthrower, and he'll probably get hit.

On the other hand, your character is immune to those type of attacks.

[Brandon Rhea]

Please read my edit. Why should others be allowed when they are even stronger and more god like?

I have yet to see anything else like this. If you see anything, please report it to an RP Admin (Sin, Matt, Nexus, Ols) and we'll look into that as well.

[The Dragon Reborn]

My post was directed at Hakim and the others as well.

I really don't think I'm being reasonable by asking you to tone down your character.

PM once you've made the changes, and I'll take a look at your profile.

(BTW you did write in your profile that your character could resist lightsaber blow to the chest, and you DID mention in the City thread that your armor would make "any starship captain jealous." So please don't act as if I was taking things out of context, because I'm not)

EDIT: You can shoot a dark jedi with a slugthrower, and he'll probably get hit.

Alrighty then. I'll edit Vashni a bit then. I usually add metaphors and hyperboles to my posts for a touch of flare. Just like how I tune into my character's personal thoughts and feelings to what is going on in context to what is actually happening.

Oh, and when I shot Storm's Dark Jedi with an entire round of slugthrower bolts, he dodged half and deflected the others, so it isn't fair to say 'probably' when there were three people shooting at the same Dark Jedi from different angles yet he ended up dodging everything.

[Brandon Rhea]

Then why are Dark Jedi and Jedi allowed in threads? A smuggler against a Dark Jedi is a weighted fight. There is no way the smuggler can get out alive unless he is decked out in state of the art gear with a couple others behind him. When you put a Jedi or Dark Jedi into a thread with 'regular' characters, the end result is the exact same as the one you just proposed: it ends up being quite boring.

You know what you're getting into when a Jedi or a Dark Jedi are around. On the other hand, this is just over the top.

This conversation is over. Deal with it and please rework your character. Thanks.

[The Dragon Reborn]

You know what you're getting into when a Jedi or a Dark Jedi are around. On the other hand, this is just over the top.

This conversation is over. Deal with it and please rework your character. Thanks.

I can't really rewrite him since he doesn't serve a purpose anymore with Storm's faction now canceled (though it had never been approved) >_>

[SIN]

I can't really rewrite him since he doesn't serve a purpose anymore with Storm's faction now canceled (though it had never been approved) >_>

It isn't "cancelled", we're just asking you guys to rewrite some parts.

[Fallen]

You guys were a bit unreal in your power. I mean, limited stealth alone, nothing else, that'd work. Frankly, I tried to go along with it, but you kind've seemed to run right into the scenario and send everything whirling. I'm not saying the changes were wrong, just a bit suprising.

[Commodore]

You guys were a bit unreal in your power. I mean, limited stealth alone, nothing else, that'd work. Frankly, I tried to go along with it, but you kind've seemed to run right into the scenario and send everything whirling. I'm not saying the changes were wrong, just a bit suprising.

I was just going along with what was written in the Zialan Sodality thread on what equipment I had.

[Fallen]

Well then perhaps the guy in charge of the faction should adjust the thread?

[Sheogorath]

Well then perhaps the guy in charge of the faction should adjust the thread?

That's what he's doing at the moment, the problems been addressed if you haven't noticed.

[Fallen]

I was not informed, and I'm rping on Xfire with two friends, so only popping in every so often.

[Sheogorath]

I was not informed, and I'm rping on Xfire with two friends, so only popping in every so often.

It's four posts above yours where the admins have stepped in, in this very thread...are you stoned, stupid, or terribly unobservant?

[Brandon Rhea]

It's four posts above yours where the admins have stepped in, in this very thread...are you stoned, stupid, or terribly unobservant?

There's the old Sheo we all know and love.

[SIN]

It's four posts above yours where the admins have stepped in, in this very thread...are you stoned, stupid, or terribly unobservant?

Warning for you.

Now everyone shut up.

[Sheogorath]

There's the old Sheo we all know and love.

It wasn't that mean...

[Fallen]

The last one, I sometimes miss the obvious.:CShock:Forgive me, I am not usually missing things anymore, but, unfortunately, it still happens on occasion.

My apologizes.:D

[Rós]

Nudges Fallen
Go for the first one. >>

[Fallen]

Nein, no drugs. I prefer missing things on ocassion.

And don't worry SIN, he didn't upset me that bad. Trust me, I've dealt with worst in my old group. (hence the reason why I am here, today.)

Added:

Also, why are we arguing? Are we going to delete the posts back to when things got confused? I think that may be for the best. I find the EMP throwing logical, after that, things got confusing as **ll.

[SIN]

And don't worry SIN, he didn't upset me that bad. Trust me, I've dealt with worst in my old group. (hence the reason why I am here, today.)

It's OK.

I like going on power trips.

[Fallen]

Ah, well, at least you have firm reasoning behind it. :CHappy: